THE WOLF'S DEN - Tana dei Lupi II

[maro]

I like the prospect of Mexes-Juan (though I don't quite believe it); I'm less enthusiastic about the projected midfield four. Surely it's going to be Taddei down the right and Menez down the left. Please, Claudio. Pretty please.

[RomaShield27]

Look, see, you scared him away you fuckin dickhead. We miss you, Stef. The real you. We shall see him again, one day, my friends. We shall see him again.

[stefano]

Seriously though, what is the advantage of having Baptista on the bench instead of Okaka (assuming both are equally fit)? With Vucinic out, I'd think Okaka's ability to make runs would provide a usefual option to open things up from the bench.

Edzo, if you want the real me, look in the shoutbox.

[RomaShield27]

It has to be Mexes-Juan, for me, at least, and if not I have serious doubts about Ranieri's future at this club. Not purely because he's a tinkering fuck, but because its about selecting the players on form. Mexes is on fine form and is in his element at the moment back playing regularly with France and looking like the Philippe of old, and if he's not playing tomorrow it signals the end of his Roma career, I think, something which I would be very disappointed with. I agree, too, that if Menez is fit he has to start. Okaka, also, should be on the bench.

I do, Stef, I do. Thats my point, no?

[maro]

It's also about defensive patterns, of course. Mexes has never looked comfortable under Ranieri because Ranieri plays with a higher back-line than Spags did. Philippe's not the sharpest tool in the tool-box and so knowing when to play an attacker offside and when to track his run is not the sort of decision he makes with particular confidence or accuracy.

[Carlo Romano]

It's not the same without a pre-match press conference. However, although we are all, including him, there first and foremost for the football, how interesting it is to a Romano at least, to watch Ranieri informally interviewed on Sky Italia, Friday, assuring us he still wants to win with la magica!

For me there is always a point to hearing him discuss both our club and Roman culture, saying he thinks perhaps Romans can be accused of overplaying the pride in which everything Roman is held, but that's because of its heritage, dating back to the ancient Empire. "That's a characteristic of being a Roman, Roma is Roma and we are what we are," he said.

I had long forgotten he was born in the San Saba district of Roma, and that he had left home 36 years ago in search of fame and fortune. Seeing him speak reminded me of when he first joined us, telling of the thousand different thoughts he had when he was offered the chance to be our allenatore, including how it would be if he failed in his own hometown...and then banishing those thoughts from his mind and gratefully accepting the chance to coach the team in his heart.

He spoke of the way a player can shrug off a negative spell of results by saying, "These things happen in football," whereas with a coach, the responsibility is always there. He continued by insisting that to him, emotional pressure only affects him when he is not working, despite the accusations of some that he appears nervous and stressed because they fault find some of his decisions.

He mentioned his initial reaction on the first time he stepped out onto the pitch as Roma coach at the Olimpico. He had to set his face to mask all the emotion he felt while listening to the Antonello Venditi "hynno!"

His response to the accusations that he is a capable manager in terms of building the foundations of a winning side and has had to then watch other coaches lead those teams to success. Does that anger him?

I smiled at his reference to the way the English, when progress is slow, use the saying: "Rome wasn't built in a day!"

He spoke of his belief in karma or destiny, and of how though he hasn't been able to end a specific work, there is always a stimulus to the building process. I noted his use of the word "Patience!" Like he knows his day will come.

He spoke of the differences between coaching in Italy and elsewhere, at the way when a match finishes in Italy, the work starts all over again. The "suffering" process and how in Italy it can be ugly, particularly the football discussion programs which are designed around creating an audience, not of the love of the game... and of the way every spoken word by a coach can be used against him.

Finally, he was asked if he believed his finest hour is still to come...

"Always. That is the stimulus of every man, that he should want to always win, should dream of winning of more, should realise the dream, should want to reach his Utopia. I want always to win and want to obtain always more than I have done."

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The content here is all about being a Romano. If you don't feel it you can never know what it really means. After this interview I don't know that I will happily ever adjust (though I may need to) to the thought of a non Roman running our club, in ownership or team management and that takes into consideration my full awareness of the implications of that statement, of our urgent need to reverse our fortunes.

The pride I felt and remembered goes way back, long beyond Ranieri, and it made me all the more resentful of the recent disparaging remarks by certain people connected with il calcio.

Today even if it it is ugly because of our weakened resources, Roma MUST prevail.

[RomaShield27]

What was Ranieri waffling on about? I'm worried about the game tonight (but I am going to miss it, unfortunately), would a draw be a good result for us here, do we think?

[Carlo Romano]

On this occasion I'm for forgiving his "woffle," Ed.

Somehow what he said hit home with me, whereas his outburst of a couple of weeks ago left me stone cold. A draw? Fuck that...I want the three points and I don't care how ugly we look in taking them!


Quite apart from those who are missing, the bummer could be in having key players under par this evening. Taddei, Menez, Pizza...

Marco and Francè are going to have to hit 110%!

[pocari_fenrir]

[pocari_fenrir]

contrary to some beliefs around here... we're looking wonderous in this outing now that Taddei is back, Pizarro is on the ball and Totti is fighting hard (though not spectactularly brilliant)

[romawi]

pocari, you should really join us in the shout box. That's where the real, and serious posting happens.

[maro]

Is Taddei really this important to the chemistry of the side? ffs.

[maro]

A little bit of the commentary from the sb for those like thredzo who are missing the game for some other extraordinarily important commitment:


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They are really ripping us off in the UK for that now! It's because they know the pubs and clubs are taking it for the EPL/SPL and they are milking it!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:45 pm

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Then you should get the game on rai no?

Italiamia
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:45 pm

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I took a TivuSat subscription this time Gio...gives me Rai/Mediaset/La7 etc...I will take Sky Italia after the New Year again perhaps...I'll see!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:44 pm

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I thought you had rai and sky italia Carlo.

Italiamia
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:42 pm

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This damn stream is playing non stop German ads...no match replays. I'll set the record for the highlights show later and watch when I get home from work.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:39 pm

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Well, he scored one earlier that was incorrectly ruled offside from the looks of the replay.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:37 pm

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a pity that last shooting chance Totti had, he took that split second too long over.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:35 pm

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Lupa, tonight is a "must win," don't forget... yes indeed Fahad!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:34 pm

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they're making runs, and that has added to totti's play.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:34 pm

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brighi perrotta and taddei have been very good.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:33 pm

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Necessity creates "strange bedfellows" as the saying goes!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:33 pm

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Maybe Totti's playing better today is partly because Perrotta has been there, since he's made some runs forward. Borriello continues to impress.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:32 pm

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Pizza has made a couple of nice contributions...I'm glad he got that "Best Player" award.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:30 pm

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Ah but that was done before the "Newco" management was set up! Now that was typical Prade!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:28 pm

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Perhaps. OTOH, they certainly didn't advise us to sign Fatriano to that fat contract.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:27 pm

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Unicredit's prompting?

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:26 pm

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I have to say that it's looking like a brilliant move at the moment that we made it a loan with our buying him later rather than just the option. Weird for Roma to do something smart for a change.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:25 pm

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He's too much of a Ranieri favourite to not be the first choice.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:25 pm

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Burdisso working hard to justify his selection.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:24 pm

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Lupa, if Marco was bald at this minute most of us wouldn't care. lol! Tom, I was so occupied watching "Drawers," I wasn't even thinking of Lobont...

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:24 pm

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He was looking for a call from Lobont, no?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:23 pm

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Just stock up on steroid creams, then

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:23 pm

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You can have Marco if I can have Belen.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:22 pm

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What is Cassetti playing at?

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:22 pm

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Now if only Marco would improve his hairstyle he'd be perfect

[maro]

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Do you think Giacomo will have noticed Perrotta's role in that second goal, Chewna?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:57 pm

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i cant believe Pizarro just bossed that guy off the ball at the corner

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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Hog City.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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Lately he always looks quite worse for wear Lupa.

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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A pity Borriello was just O/S...that looked nice...

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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There's no way Borriello was offside there, surely?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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yah Carlo..... i think there is someone else from Toronto too around here

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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Deflected? My arse. A beautifully cultured cucchiaio.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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DeRossi looks drunk

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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Matteo...... BRIGHI!!!

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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I didn't know you are in Canada! Bravissimo Brighi! Now let's not blow this!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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BRIGHI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Lucky, yes, but some wonderful play.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Fucking stooning

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Sweeeeet

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Yes.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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in Toronto

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Canada

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Pocari, may I ask, Which country are you from?

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:53 pm

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Don't tell thredzo you've found out.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:53 pm

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i dont see how that helps, but sure ahaha

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:53 pm

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Get yourself a GPS, Pocari...lol!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:52 pm

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my bad

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:52 pm

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lol

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:52 pm

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lol. Welcome, Pocari.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:52 pm

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ooooooooooh so this is where the shoutbox is

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:52 pm

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Pizza just won a header. Genoa are fucked.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:52 pm

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Menez was doing plenty of talking about how the squad has a new "feelgood" factor...let's hope it lasts!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:51 pm

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That was some lovely play right there.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:51 pm

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When Taddei fades let's hope we get to see Menez before it's too late in proceedings. Before 65, say.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:50 pm

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A piu tardi, Gianni!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:49 pm

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TivuSat doesn't give Mediaset Premium...or La7 Cartapiu. I was supposed to get this match on ESPN. They are showing two matches tomorrow to make up for a no-show tonight. No consolation to me!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:49 pm

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Ciao, gio. Let's hope we have another 45 mins to enjoy.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:49 pm

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Later gents and lady.

Italiamia
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:49 pm

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You know how that happened right?

Italiamia
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:48 pm

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I am actually watching it on fox soccer channel because rai has a 5 second delay on the audio which is making me crazy. I hope the correct the problem for the 2nd half.

Italiamia
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:47 pm

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Sky Italia and the terrestrial Mediaset service have it legally tied up!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:47 pm

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No, Gio. Rai can only show live Serie A outwith Italy, or to be more precise, the satellite footprint.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:46 pm

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They are really ripping us off in the UK for that now! It's because they know the pubs and clubs are taking it for the EPL/SPL and they are milking it!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:45 pm

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Then you should get the game on rai no?

Italiamia
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:45 pm

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I took a TivuSat subscription this time Gio...gives me Rai/Mediaset/La7 etc...I will take Sky Italia after the New Year again perhaps...I'll see!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:44 pm

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I thought you had rai and sky italia Carlo.

Italiamia
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:42 pm

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This damn stream is playing non stop German ads...no match replays. I'll set the record for the highlights show later and watch when I get home from work.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:39 pm

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Well, he scored one earlier that was incorrectly ruled offside from the looks of the replay.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:37 pm

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a pity that last shooting chance Totti had, he took that split second too long over.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:35 pm

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Lupa, tonight is a "must win," don't forget... yes indeed Fahad!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:34 pm

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they're making runs, and that has added to totti's play.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:34 pm

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brighi perrotta and taddei have been very good.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:33 pm

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Necessity creates "strange bedfellows" as the saying goes!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:33 pm

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Maybe Totti's playing better today is partly because Perrotta has been there, since he's made some runs forward. Borriello continues to impress.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:32 pm

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Pizza has made a couple of nice contributions...I'm glad he got that "Best Player" award.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:30 pm

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Ah but that was done before the "Newco" management was set up! Now that was typical Prade!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:28 pm

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Perhaps. OTOH, they certainly didn't advise us to sign Fatriano to that fat contract.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:27 pm

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Unicredit's prompting?

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:26 pm

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I have to say that it's looking like a brilliant move at the moment that we made it a loan with our buying him later rather than just the option. Weird for Roma to do something smart for a change.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:25 pm

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He's too much of a Ranieri favourite to not be the first choice.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:25 pm

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Burdisso working hard to justify his selection.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:24 pm

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Lupa, if Marco was bald at this minute most of us wouldn't care. lol! Tom, I was so occupied watching "Drawers," I wasn't even thinking of Lobont...

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:24 pm

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He was looking for a call from Lobont, no?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:23 pm

[maro]

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Rosella in tears!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:37 pm

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You shouldn't be, Carlo - he's a gifted player. If he can get himself fit.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:37 pm

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WE WON!!!

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:37 pm

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Yay

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:37 pm

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Yes.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:37 pm

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Great fucking dive, Rodrigo. No wonder Claudio kept you on.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:36 pm

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I'm amazed...that was nice from Little Fatso!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:36 pm

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Geez Genoa are making this easier for us than they might.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:35 pm

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Let's just get the 3 points today.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:35 pm

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a lazy passback!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:34 pm

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Jeezus H Kerrrist...

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:34 pm

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this however... is plain ugly

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:34 pm

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Well remember the first game when the 'not ready to play 90 minutes' Borriello played the full game

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:34 pm

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true Maro....... but at least that fouls/ft thing keeps the game competitive

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:34 pm

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if Taddei starts from bench because he's too fuckin exhausted come Tuesday, there will be hell to pay

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:33 pm

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Football like this is so ugly to watch. It's like the fouls/free-throws thing in the closing seconds of basketball.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:33 pm

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fuck man....... we're gonna need Taddei against Basel

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:33 pm

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Was that Criscito? What a bozo

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:32 pm

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Not this time. 5 mins extra though!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:32 pm

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Five minutes?

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:32 pm

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Lol maybe not.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:32 pm

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Here we go. A deflected scrappy goal from a corner in injury time. I've read this script before.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:31 pm

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...and we were after Sculli at one point? Lobont is going to challenge JS for the goalie's job if he keeps this up.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:31 pm

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come on Ranieri........ take Taddei/Brighi off

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:31 pm

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Yeah, pocari I was thinking that. Totti's a master time waster in the corner of the field

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:31 pm

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i forget Doni isnt between the sticks no more

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:30 pm

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Aye. Brighi will be relieved.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:30 pm

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i cringed a little on that shot

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:30 pm

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That was close

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:30 pm

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Jesusss

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:29 pm

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actually, we should keep Totti on, he wastes time well

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:29 pm

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I take it all back.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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"Mister Pasticcione" now, Tom!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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I guess he failed that fitness test today.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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when taddei looks this tired, i don't know how ranieri can keep him on the pitch.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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Ah, sorry, I see, Pocari.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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or Okaka for Totti

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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Menez isnt listed....... maybe Baptista to come on??

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm

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We couldn't have asked for much more from him on his first game back...

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:27 pm

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That is also typical tinker-man to my mind.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:27 pm

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Taddei's contribution's been enormous, but Menez should have been on 15 minutes ago at least.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:26 pm

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Taddei is so obviously running out of gas.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:26 pm

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How much did we pay that pony-tailed git to keep releasing the pressure?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:24 pm

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wtf, Burdisso? Again, why?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:23 pm

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Exactly

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:23 pm

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sssshhhhhhhh ... don't tempt fate

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:23 pm

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but so late in the game, im hoping Greco could get a run out

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:23 pm

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Well the little fat git had better shape up. We can't afford another draw!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:22 pm

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i agree that he's vice Pizza

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:22 pm

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dont say it Vincenzo....... we need the fuckin win

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:22 pm

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3-1 to us, -que?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:22 pm

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Simplicio's the right call - even if he's not good or fit enough. He's in the squad as the vice-Pizza so you have to go with what you've given yourself.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:21 pm

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everyone and their dog knows how this will end....

SPqR
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:21 pm

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you know the subs are late when he makes a double

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:21 pm

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Oh no. 10 minutes to go still, too

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:21 pm

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OMG Simplicio too??

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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he didnt even make the sub before that goal

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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I said we were inviting them on to us.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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huh?

SPqR
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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Speaking of making changes too late . . .

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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Christ, that was ugly!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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fuckin A

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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Fock.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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fuck

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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crap

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 pm

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Really? When you have other true midfield options on the bench?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:19 pm

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smart sub

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:19 pm

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Perrotta

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:19 pm

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too many guys labouring right now. Perrotta

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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he could push Riise into midfield

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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Surely not for Pizza

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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depends for who

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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I bet it's not for Riise.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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eurosport doesn't have menez listed as a sub.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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Castellini coming in, I guess for Riise

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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Oh, god. It's a fucking left back.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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Castellini??

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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yah i dont want us to lose Taddei just after coming back

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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Oh is that Greco?

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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You have to back the bench - Menez for Taddei, Simplicio for the struggling Pizza.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:17 pm

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Taddei's got to come off. Come on, Claudio.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:17 pm

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Pic isn't all you'd want but none of these 'net links ever are that good.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:17 pm

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ooh that had to hurt.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:16 pm

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i think Burdisso or Riise needs a sub after taking those hits

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:16 pm

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http://www.atdhe.net/25777/watch-as-roma-vs-genoa try this Pocari

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:16 pm

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Pizza looks unhappy

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:16 pm

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Taddei's starting to look heavy. It's one of the Tinkerman's characteristics, Lupa - he tinkers when he shouldn't and other changes makes miles too late.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:16 pm

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Ah, Lobont's famous parrying move

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:15 pm

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I know there is always a point where each team takes the upper hand, even when 2 down as Genoa are. But we are inviting them on to us. I don't like that at all.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:15 pm

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yah i have FSC on some web stream....... Sopcast wasnt kind to me today

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:15 pm

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Has the tinkerman not made even one change, or I did miss something?

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:14 pm

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Yes. Sorry - I think I'm a minute or two ahead of you and Carlo both. And my stream's ahead too.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:14 pm

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ahahahha the look on Toni's face

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:14 pm

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oh i see it now, ugly ass corner

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:14 pm

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O ___ O

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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No, Criscito. I'm taking the piss.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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what an ultra Maroon!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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Oh, I remember, Lupa.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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has who?? Menez??

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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Thankfully! Remember he had their best chance!

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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at least Mexes is a permanent fixture for France though

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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Has he ever played before?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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This Criscito guy's shit.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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Menez has been dropped since Nasri returned i believe

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:12 pm

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Yes!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:12 pm

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Glad Brighi was outside the area for that

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:12 pm

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Not at this moment, of course as they set up a FK

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:11 pm

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He wasn't in the squad. Burdisso's been a bit shaky again - and in the same kind of way.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:10 pm

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Shouldn't Burdisso be off to deal with that blood?

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:10 pm

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No.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:10 pm

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did menez play for france last week?

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:10 pm

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fuckin Juan

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:08 pm

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ref should have stopped that immediately.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:08 pm

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Great block by lobont...

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:08 pm

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Juan just KOed Riise.......... WTF

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:08 pm

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I'm on Bet365. Do our defenders share a language?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:08 pm

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What a curious expostulation.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:07 pm

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what feed are you guys watching?? you guys seem to be ahead a min or 2

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:07 pm

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HOLY Burdisso's cut is still gushing

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:06 pm

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It's because he's old, Chewna.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:05 pm

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i want Maresca > Simplicio

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:05 pm

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i certainly hope so

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:05 pm

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12 offers...and yet not one definite...all this gossip saying before the New Year we will be sold.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:05 pm

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yet Liverfekkin'wankscum have been on the market for a month and they've got a deal done

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:05 pm

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i wonder if the people who were criticizing totti will have noticed why he is so effective today.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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we've been on the market for what?? 3 years?? and still not sold

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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On Borriello.

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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let's hope we're sold before then Carlo

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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Surely Taddei and Perrotta will tire, though. They've both not been training much.

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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They have no choice now, Pocari. Let's hope we don't have a money problemt o finish the deal!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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So far, we've been uncharacteristically solid at the back, too, by and large.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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yah man.... Spalletti times

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm

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It's almost like old times with Taddei Perrotta Totti out there

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:03 pm

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Their movement complements each others' - as well as Totti and Pizza on the ball.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:03 pm

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i have no idea how Milan will give up Borriello to us...... but this is the most wonderful hand-me-down they've ever given us

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:03 pm

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Oh, Totti-Borriello...almost totally beautiful!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:02 pm

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Certainly all of Brighi, Taddei, and Perrotta are playing well as Chewna said in the Roma fred.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:02 pm

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i swear, could've had his first hattrick for us this match

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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noooooooooooooooo Borriello, so close

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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If it had gone in, that is

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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damn.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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oh you mean when Toni played the dummy to that dummy, Palacio

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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Fuck.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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Goal of the season

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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If that had gone in!!!

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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It was funny, because toward the end of the first half, a Genoa player pulled a dummy, but the next guy didn't get it, so the guy pulling the dummy just looked like a dummy. Wow, Totti almost ...

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:01 pm

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So he is a professional moaner then?

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:00 pm

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and Maro, Perotta totally needs Taddei

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:00 pm

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I'm not sure Giacomo really cares to debate all that much, Carlo.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:59 pm

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Sneaky Pete?

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:59 pm

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in that play...... looked like Perrotta played a dummy

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:59 pm

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sure his run pulled two defenders away, but giacomo will probably find an a way to dismiss that.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:59 pm

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LOL Rudolph

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:59 pm

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Tom, James likes his debates, doesn't he?

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:58 pm

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Hey carlo!

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:58 pm

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Fuck off red-nose.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:58 pm

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probably not, maro.

romawi
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:58 pm

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ah, here is Sneaky Pete 2. Jeff, Greg San Paolo is #1!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:57 pm

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Do you think Giacomo will have noticed Perrotta's role in that second goal, Chewna?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:57 pm

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i cant believe Pizarro just bossed that guy off the ball at the corner

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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Hog City.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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Lately he always looks quite worse for wear Lupa.

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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A pity Borriello was just O/S...that looked nice...

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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There's no way Borriello was offside there, surely?

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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yah Carlo..... i think there is someone else from Toronto too around here

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:56 pm

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Deflected? My arse. A beautifully cultured cucchiaio.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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DeRossi looks drunk

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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Matteo...... BRIGHI!!!

ASR1927
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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I didn't know you are in Canada! Bravissimo Brighi! Now let's not blow this!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm

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BRIGHI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Lucky, yes, but some wonderful play.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Fucking stooning

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Sweeeeet

Lupa
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Yes.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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in Toronto

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Canada

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:54 pm

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Pocari, may I ask, Which country are you from?

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:53 pm

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Don't tell thredzo you've found out.

maro
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:53 pm

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i dont see how that helps, but sure ahaha

pocari_fenrir
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:53 pm

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Get yourself a GPS, Pocari...lol!

Carlo Romano
Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:52 pm

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my bad

[Lupa]

Things started off brightly for Roma with a few chances, and then our new hero scoring one to open things up. The runs of Taddei, Perrotta and also Brighi helped things immensely, and what do you know, Totti looked better with those players making runs forward (dare I say like the old days?) Okay, not quite, but there were some nice moments there.

Of course, Genoa helped us by having some horrid plays (Criscito, I'm looking at you), and things got scrappy and choppy toward the end, but 3 points is 3 points! Grazie, Roma.

[Carlo Romano]

I had hoped the fightback would have begun before now. But I won't argue with a 2-1 win. I knew it would be close and none too pretty to watch, taking the entire 90 into account. But those special moments were just that!


Let's hope this time really is the fightback! We need it to be...


Lupa, that's the entire point now...Totti is dependent on those around him making those runs for him. If they can continue to provide for him he can create!

[maro]

We rock. If we continue to play as we did for much of the first 60 minutes tonight we'll not only walk the Serie A title, I'd venture to suggest we'd also be in a position to compete for a place in the top 10 in the Premiershit. Seriously, that's how good we are. Does the Taddei really make such a difference? And the Perrotta? Interestingly, I didn't think either of our fullbacks got forward as much as I'd expected tonight - Riise did a bit more in the first half, but still not as much as I'd anticipated. Without De Rossi, Vucinic, Menez, with Taddei and Perrotta only just back from injury, with Pizza clearly struggling with injury: a fine three points and not as much of a battle as I'd expected.

On tonight's performance, I think one would find it hard to question the club's decision not to sign Luca over the summer, much as I'd have liked it to have worked out. Totti's still struggling with that position - with the idea that he has to come to meet the ball and then turn before deciding what to do with it. For an eyes-up player it's a slightly perverse role for him to be playing. The defence worries me a bit - there wasn't enough composure there throughout. Nice to see Brighi get the 90 minutes. He's not DDR, certainly, but he's not a bad alternative to an out-of-sorts and tired DDR - if only Claudio would give him a few more opportunities.

[Italiamia]

You are being contentious again Tommaso. Why are you purposely trying to upset Edzo?

[maro]

I am? I think you may be having trouble reading my tone these days, Avocado. I thought I was being enthusiastic after what I thought was a very good performance and an important three points - an opening jibe at those we all despise, the Premiershite ballsuckers; praise for Taddei whose contribution in the first hour was remarkable, for Perrotta who also played very well, for Borriello whose mobility and movement is surely a better complement to Totti than Luca's style of play could be, for Brighi who I think a number of us think should have been given more of a chance in place of the very tired DDR we've seen too much of this season; a note of caution in relation to a not always quite composed defence and in relation to Totti's role where I gather I'm a touch out of step with the completely enthusiastic assessments of the Italian press. Where's the contentiousness in any of that? I even mentioned Vooch in essentially complimentary terms, though I concede I didn't grant him the absolute centre-stage as I realise I should have done.