THE WOLF'S DEN - Tana dei Lupi I

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[Italiamia]

[Jamoldo]

Glad, go and check this out. They are talking about appeals in Belgium now while others talk about other cases in italy. They are somehow tying them altogether.

The most recent post by 4,Jamil... It's clear the guy's head is in the clouds, he's 14 years old or he did not even bother to read Beppe's article. I'm done trying to respond. You give them some objectivity and look at what they do it it...

Let's quote here..

from 4,Jamil "What Solinas wrote is totally valid for the simple fact that on those pages you find that specific info. The fact that the document contradicts itself doesn't in anyway hurt Solinas' credibility but actually adds to it. The loss of credibility is in the document itself. The reason it is in this article is to say "look at the load of crap that was used to relegate Juve, on this page it says they cheated and on that page it says they didn't. I'm not sure how you interpreted it but by noting that there are contradictions you are not hurting Solinas' argument. YOU ARE CONFIRMING IT!"

Now what Beppe wrote in his article..
"The first element of confusion that still dumbfounds me is the idea (by now shared by very few) that Juventus were actually caught match fixing and sent to Serie B for that purpose. The actual Calciopoli sentence from the federal courts can be viewed by anyone on the FIGC's official website in the archive section where such a notion is completely dismantled by statements like..." and he mentions page numbers etc...

call me stupid but...sounds like Beppe gives the documents full credit to me...

[Jamoldo]

check out the editorial on Mancini.. Looks like old grego still checks out the site...

[marco]

[Italiamia]

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[Jamoldo]

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[Jamoldo]

[Zoff82]

[Jamoldo]

[arthurfonzarelli]

[Zoff82]

[arthurfonzarelli]

[Italiamia]

[maro]

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[Zoff82]

I'll admit, you guys were the first ones I thought of when this whole shit broke out, especially you Ita. You guys must've broke out the cigars and champagne after that news. It was a shame that I was no part of a forum when it broke out. You know, I always thought something was fishy BUT ONLY in the 04-05 season. I'll admit that was 1 weird season but the others weren't as bad. You can compare it to the naive man who won't admit that his wife is cheating on him, despite being told several times by others that she certainly is. He'd deny it straight out even if he caught his wife being shagged by the mailman on his own bed. I flat out denied all accusation of Juve and just thought that this was going to be some bullshit that blows over eventually. Well, it didn't and Juve were punished. I've defended that club day in and day out. That summer they were punished (and it could've been MUCH worse) and all that defending went down the drain. In the end though, had I felt "stupid" like some users on this forum claim, I would've never joined here in the first place.

There's not much to discuss about Ita. That was a year ago and I'm sure you and I are exhausted because of it. The only bright spot about that summer was Italy winning.

[marco]

dino - i can sense that was a sincere post. i too have to say you (and a couple of other juventini on this forum as well) have handled this whole thing quite well and i realise that it's not easy as we can see with some other juventini outside this forum who automatically get defensive, dismissive or outright deny anything ever happened. i know its your beloved team, a team that you've followed intensely for many years, celebrated with, commiserated with, etc. i realise its not easy but some of you guys have shown a lot of dignity since that shit went down and props to you for doing so.