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Reports that Anelka is going to be sent home for rowing with Dumbenech:
Anelka and Domenech clash - report www.rte.ie – Saturday 19 June 2010
France striker Nicolas Anelka launched an astonishing verbal attack on coach Raymond Domenech at half-time of Thursday's 2-0 defeat to Mexico, according to reports. The Chelsea forward, who has now not recorded a shot on target in 429 consecutive minutes' play for Les Bleus, was apparently criticised by Domenech for straying out of position during a goalless first half.
According to French sports newspaper L'Equipe, Anelka exploded in rage in the dressing room, verbally abusing the coach. L'Equipe claim Domenech responded by substituting the player.
The coach, strangely, returned to the team's dug-out for the second half at the Peter Mokaba Stadium in Polokwane a good minute or so before his players came out of the tunnel. And Anelka was replaced by Andre-Pierre Gignac before the re-start.
The reported bust-up is just the latest in what has been a string of rumours about unrest within the France camp and claims Domenech has lost the support of his players.
Under-fire Domenech has brushed aside concerns rivals Uruguay and Mexico may manufacture a draw in their final Group A match to ensure they progress to the knockout stages at the expense of Les Bleus.
France have to convincingly beat hosts South Africa on Tuesday and hope there is a positive result in the other fixture. With so much at stake it has been suggested the two teams from the Americas are more likely to settle for a stalemate rather than risk elimination. It is not something which concerns Domenech, who has plenty of problems of his own to deal with.
'I am not bothered about the others,' said the 58-year-old, whose six-year reign as coach will come to end at the same time as France's participation in the tournament.
'We have to play and do our thing and the other match is not my problem.'
Midfielder Jeremy Toulalan, who is suspended for next week's game, hinted that dressing room disharmony were at the heart of France's problems. But he admits it is time for the players to start delivering after two woeful and goalless performances.
'We've three or four days left to figure out what went wrong,' he said. 'You can talk for a long time but it's the pitch that counts.
'But if we don't all make the effort for each other it's hard. 'Everyone has to do their own self-analysis. I'm not going to do it for them.'
England's insularity at heart of downfall Capello finally waking up to dreaded reality of crippling flaws in his adopted nation's psyche, writes Dion Fanning
– Sunday June 20 2010
The England fan stayed slumped in his seat. He had a beer in one hand and a look of studied disdain in his eye. The Algerian national anthem was being played and he saw no reason to get up. This was his adolescent statement of contempt made ridiculous because he was in his 30s. For him, this was as good as it got. Nothing that happened on Friday at the Green Point Stadium in Cape Town forced him to get up from his seat as England failed to score against Algeria. By the end of the night, his contempt for the enemy had been replaced by the old familiar feeling of self-loathing.
His anger is righteous now as England turn on themselves but his world-view is the world-view that has destroyed English football.
England might get out of their group when they play Slovenia on Wednesday night, at which point they will cling to whatever delusion they can. The reality is that England's World Cup will be over within a week.
No manager could change the English football culture, certainly not in 12 competitive matches, but on Friday night Capello sounded dangerously honest -- or he may have been bewildered. Of course, he could easily be both.
Capello's insistence that his players are performing very well in training is not going to endear him to the self-righteous mob that booed England off on Friday. Wayne Rooney was right to speak of them as he did but they see some direct link between the money they pay for flights and their right to be entertained.
England can talk all they like about how winners of the tournament often start badly. This is not Italy or Germany we are talking about. England usually start badly and they don't go on to win the World Cup. In 1990, they had two draws in their opening games against Ireland and Holland before beating Egypt, qualifying for the knock-out stages and reaching the semi-finals. But they didn't draw with the USA and Algeria. In 1990, they didn't have Emile Heskey.
Heskey was pitiful on Friday night. He is a man in need of sympathy because, it must be remembered, he doesn't pick the team. If he did pick the team, he probably wouldn't pick himself.
Heskey is an aberration in the side. He is a player of whom there is no expectation, but even that is too much of a burden for him. It is Capello who picks him.
England knew all they needed to know abut Heskey six years ago, but still they persevere and there is something revealing in the selection of Heskey.
Capello, like Giovanni Trapattoni, sometimes cannot contain his frustration at the manner in which footballers from these islands approach the game. If they are going to be headless, his logic seems to run, I might as well not ask them to do any thinking.
He has tried to reduce it to the bare minimum with his no-risk football. But there is a paradox at the heart of conservative managers like Capello and Trapattoni. They gamble that the opponents they allow to play will do nothing with the ball. Algeria tormented England all night on Friday and the damage was done. Their failure to score might have kept England in the competition but Capello's side looked broken.
Capello was hired to be tough. England had tired of the love-in of Sven and the desperate clawing of McClaren. They wanted tough love without the love. They may have projected a sadistic streak onto Capello as he banned mobile phones and barked at the players on the training ground (where, of course, they were performing excellently) but nothing changed. Now they are being masochistic again with the only sadistic act being the continued selection of Heskey.
This is not a story of tactics or of dressing-room unrest, although they are the stories this weekend. Capello is floundering but that is to be expected. He thought he had changed the mentality, but a culture that took 50 years to shape won't be changed by a Theo Walcott hat-trick in Zagreb.
This week will demonstrate his toughness or reveal who really runs the show. Since he stripped John Terry of the captaincy for non-footballing reasons, Capello has shown a vulnerability to the demands of the media. He let them in on that occasion and this week they will be breaking down the door.
He will probably gamble and give them what they want; he seems unsure what else will work. "It is incredible, the mistakes of some of the players," he said on Friday, as baffled as everyone else.
Capello insists that Wayne Rooney is fit although he looked weary in body and mind in Cape Town. "We have to send him in from training, he is fit."
His ordered world now depends on 90 frantic minutes in Port Elizabeth on Wednesday and he appears to be making it up as he goes along.
Capello spent some time last week complaining about the Jabulani match ball but it turned out that in February a consignment of the adidas ball was lost by the FA. England were preparing to fail.
On Friday night, Capello tried to change things at half-time. He had a big idea. The second half began with Terry bursting forward from defence. Capello had clearly told his defenders to advance with the ball and allow the midfielders to get further forward. They did it once. It was half an hour before Terry attempted to do the same thing again but by that stage everyone else had forgotten about England's latest wheeze.
England's problem is not a problem of tactics, of whether Joe Cole should start or if they have less gifted players technically than other nations. Those things would have some relevance if the key matter was addressed and the key matter can't be addressed because there is nobody who can address it.
England's players reflect the culture they come from. They are unthinking, unquestioning and passive aggressive. "England has lost its nerve," Tom Stoppard wrote and he wasn't talking about the football team.
The aggression has been drawn from the footballers and only anxiety remains. The unknown terrifies and paralyses them. The philosophy of the Daily Mail has destroyed the part of England that chooses to engage with it, primarily its sporting and political worlds.
Capello spoke of the fear that seems to have gripped his players afterwards. He thought it was fear of the World Cup. In fact, it is fear of the world.
Algeria's Hassan Yebda spent some time reflecting on the game in the mixed zone on Friday night. Steven Gerrard had dismissed Algeria's performance, remarking that it was Algeria's "cup final". "This wasn't our cup final," Yebda said, "this was our second game in the group. We have one more to play."
Through circumstance and nature, the England players tend to fly through these places, stopping at some designated stop-off points before shooting through. They are in the World Cup, but they discover nothing of the world. Only David James is inclined to stop in front of strange faces. It contrasts with the ease with which the great players of other countries saunter along. Every four years, England behave the same way: they keep their heads down and scuttle through, stopping to deliver sound-bites to the press they despise with some cause.
They believe they are under siege and on nights like Friday, they are right. But the only way they can lift the siege is by acting as if it has been lifted.
English football has improved over the past 20 years because the wit and intelligence has been imported. The best clubs have not only brought in foreign players, but foreign managers, again highlighting a flaw in the culture of the game. England, as represented by its football culture, is insular. Their response to the arrival of the world's best players and managers is revealing too. They think it has prevented their players from rising when in fact they would have been doomed without them.
Freed from the expectation to think, players like Gerrard and Frank Lampard have become effective for their clubs. It is not that they can't play together, it's that they can't be what they are not. Capello, even in his limited and conservative fashion, is asking them to do things they are not used to doing: to question and to adapt on a football field.
"When we are in training everything is perfect but then something happens. I think it is the fear of the World Cup," Capello said late on Friday night, perhaps stunned into honesty. "It is incredible, the performance in training is good and then this happens. I am surprised this is happening."
He is the only one. Before Wednesday, they will prostrate themselves. They will talk about coaches and academies, they will talk about the superior technique of the continentals and the pace of the Premiershit and they will drop Heskey. But it won't make any difference.
"It is in the mind," Capello said of his team's problems. He talks of his team in training and then looks at the team he has seen in the first two games and says "that is not the England that I know". He hasn't done his research.
Capello now seems as desperate as everyone else. Asked on Friday if he accepted that England could not win the World Cup, he was precise if awkward while the FA media man's eyes blinker furiously beside him. "I think . . . I hope, not I think, that after one big performance, the mind of the players will be free and they can play like the England that I know."
He is merely hoping now -- and hope and England no longer rhyme.
France's chaotic World Cup campaign is in disarray after the players boycotted training in support of Nicolas Anelka, who was sent home on Saturday for a row with coach Raymond Domenech. Less than 24 hours after the Chelsea forward was excluded by the French Football Federation (FFF) for refusing to apologise for his verbal attack on Domenech, the rest of the squad took matters into their own hands.
Just a few minutes after taking the field for a training session at their Knysna base in South Africa captain Patrice Evra and fitness coach Robert Duverne became involved in an argument.
Domenech stepped in and Duverne stormed away as the players walked off and boarded the team bus.
The coach returned moments later to read a statement from the squad to the assembled media.
'All players without exception want to declare their opposition to FFF decision to exclude Nicolas Anelka,' it said.
The statement added the players were angered the Anelka-Domenech row had become public and criticised the FFF, 'which at no time tried to protect the squad'.
However, the players vowed 'to do everything individually and collectively so that France regains its honour [against South Africa] on Tuesday'.
The statement released by the France squad today in full:
'With this statement, all the players in the France squad without exception want to declare their opposition to the decision taken by the French Football Federation to exclude Nicolas Anelka from the squad.
'If we regret the incident which occurred at half-time of the match between France and Mexico, we regret even more the leak of an event which should have remained within the group and which is quite common in a high-level team.
'At the request of the squad, the player in question attempted to have dialogue but his approach was ignored.
'For its part, the French Football Federation has at no time tried to protect the squad.
'It has made a decision (to send Anelka home) without consulting all the players, on the basis of the facts reported by the press.
'Accordingly, and to mark the opposition to those at the highest level of French football, all the players decided not to train today.
'Out of respect for the public who came to attend training, we decided to go to meet the fans who, by their presence, showed their full support.
'For our part, we are aware of our responsibilities as those wearing the colours of our country. Also for those we have towards our fans and countless children who keep Les Bleus as role models.
'We forget none of our duties.
'We will do everything individually and also in a collective spirit to ensure that France regains its honour with a positive performance on Tuesday.'
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Fucking pathetic disgusting pieces of shit the lot of them, right down from the manager to the players to this fitness coach, all of them. Other nations like Italy and England may be struggling on the pitch, but the French take the biscuit with all this shite off it. They are a disgrace, one that did not deserve to be at the WC in the first place, and now look at how they all carry on once they are there. Not only is it enough to ruin the hopes of one nations WC dreams, they now have to ruin their own nations by carrying on like this. Well done, France, well fucking done.
Well said Shield, this team and first of all the manager Domenech are a fucking disgrace.
Not only to all viewers outside France but for us French having a hard time to observe this from the outside. What a shame in front of the world!!! All these motherfuckerrrs who are earning yearly more than all of us in a lifetime. It is a fucking joke.
Most of these players (and especially those bastards coming from the suburbs, those ones with no education, no respect for the Real life, no respect for their fans and their managers) can go to die. I can never support Anelka, Malouda, Govou, Ribery, Gallas kinds of players.
Of course there are some that I like and I am sure they are not in any way responsible of this shit happening. Gourcuff, Toulalan and some others are I believe just following. All this is obviously Domenech's fault, the fucker has never had any authority on this group. They are deciding on everything this bunch of arrogants shits.
I will watch the last game and will be supporting South Africa, just imagine. This has never happened to me but I feel so shame for France who is represented by too many motherfuckers. All these fucking retarded who believe they are more important than anything.
I can not wait for them to be out and be able to enjoy the real World Cup. We did not deserve to be there and this is KARMA i TELL YOU.
Then Laurent Blanc is going to take over and I hope he is going to change things. More real French and less of these fuckers!!!
Well said, too, Frenche'. I think it does all stem from Domenech and he is too blame. Sure, the players have acted like dickheads and think they are more important than the team but the manager is the one who has to control his players, but yet its obvious they have no respect for him. You could also say that the problems come from above Domenech, that the French FA are to blame for sticking with a man who clearly had lots of baggage (and metal problems) and a history of disagreeing with players, and he never should of lasted this long. Its a shame for French supporters like yourself (an even bigger shame to all the French fans who bought tickets and went to SA), and a shame for football overall.
Totally agree Shield. Domenech and the French federation are the first responsible although some of the players leading this "farce" are a fucking disgrace to professional football. I have been listening radio and read news online and I can tell you that no one is defending them. We all know some players in that squad do not deserve the image that is being shown outside right now. But the fuckers in this team are to blame, I hate them.
The french federation is a joke, they are all defending their own interest and do not work for french football. A bunch of bastards!!!
i just feel sorry for the "honest" ones caught up in all this mess, too many chiefs and not enough indians in the FFF, like Frenchy said, when Blanc takes over i hope he kicks out all the pretenders and has real frenchmen playing in his team
Paolo Maldini "Il Sogno di ogni attaccante e' segnare il piu' bella gol della storia. L'incubo e' incontrare il miglior difensore del mondo."
Francesco Totti "Never give up Pippo,You are an example for all of us to never give up."
France coach Raymond Domenech has said some of his players may refuse to face South Africa because of Nicolas Anelka's expulsion from the squad. The Chelsea striker was sent home for verbally abusing Domenech during last week's 2-0 defeat by Mexico. When asked whether some of his squad might not play on Tuesday, the coach said: "It is a possibility."
Domenech also labelled the players' decision to boycott Sunday's training session as "an aberration". They refused to take part in protest at Anelka's expulsion, in a situation that has escalated to such an extent the French government have felt the necessity to intervene.
The forward was said to have abused Domenech at half-time during France's second group game, which led to the 31-year-old being substituted. Anelka later refused to apologise when asked to do so by French Football Federation president Jean-Pierre Escalettes. As a consequence, a statement was issued by the FFF stating that Anelka had been excluded from the squad, a measure supported by Domenech.
"Nobody can behave in such a way in the dressing room or elsewhere and high-level sportsmen and women have to lead by example through football," he added. The boycott of training led to FFF's managing director Jean-Louis Valentin quitting his post. France captain Evra was also involved in a heated argument with fitness coach Robert Duverne prior to the scheduled session, which required the intervention of Domenech.
Sports minister Roselyne Bachelot revealed an official investigation would be conducted into the incident after the tournament. Acting on the instructions of French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Bachelot confronted the players and then held an impromptu media briefing at the Free State Stadium in Bloemfontein.
"The government has had to intervene as the reputation at France is at stake in this case," said Bachelot. "I told the players they had tarnished the image of France," she commented. "It is a morale disaster for French football. "I told them they could no longer be heroes for our children. They have destroyed the dreams of their countrymen, their friends and supporters."
According to a senior FFF official, the squad's training boycott was prompted by several players. "The three or four leaders are players past their prime who will never play a World Cup again," FFF general secretary Henri Monteil told French daily newspaper La Charente Libre.
Later on Sunday, the French coach read out a statement on behalf of the players but was keen to add that he had not supported the boycott. "We had to do something - the French people had a right to know," added Domenech. "What I should have said at the end of the message was that I did not support this action.
"With the FFF president and staff members, we tried to convince them it was stupid. I disagreed with the document. What they were doing was unthinkable. "We've wasted a lot of energy. There are no words to explain what has happened. I'm hoping we will now have action on the pitch rather than off it."
France are on the verge of making an early World Cup exit, having picked up only one point from two games. They need to beat South Africa on Tuesday by a large score and hope that Uruguay and Mexico do not draw their match.
Players 'like seven-year-olds who don't respect the teacher', says French fan
Meanwhile, in France, the national media have largely condemned the players' actions. French sports paper L'Equipe wrote: "A rebellion? No, a caprice. A strike? No, cowardliness. Don't deceive yourself. The republican solidarity that our players showed the world yesterday is an illusion.
"Evra has once and for all shown that he has muddled up the role of captain with that of a gang leader. Domenech, by lending a hand to this masquerade and reading out himself the players' statement, has missed his final opportunity to show some style and courage."
Newspaper Le Figaro added: "It is collective suicide... the French team has heaped ridicule on itself in front of the whole world at Knysna. "It was almost hallucinatory. This is a psychodrama that will go down in the history of the World Cup. The French team has been reduced to ashes."
I guess the French will at least take some consolation in having spited the Irish. Or is it only the small-minded who take pleasure in such small triumphs?
The French are toast for a reason Tuesday, June 22, 2010 Jun 224:06PM
by Jeff Bradley
JOHANNESBURG -- There was a time in soccer history -- in the U.S., anyway -- when the 1998 U.S. team was considered the poster boy for World Cup dissension. After losses to Germany and Iran, American players began to gripe to the media about coach Steve Sampson. U.S. veterans Alexi Lalas, Eric Wynalda and Tab Ramos were the most vocal members of the team that finished 32nd in France.
Well, the Boys of '98 can take a breath, because 12 years later, here in South Africa, the French team has redefined what it means to embarrass your country at the World Cup.
A boring, goalless draw with Uruguay turned out to be the highlight of the tourney for Les Bleus. I watched Mexico shred France with a crew of French journalists in a Bloemfontein hotel on Thursday, and they could not say enough bad things about French coach Raymond Domenech. As the coach stood emotionless on the sideline, you could almost sense total disgust for what was going on. And then a day later, all hell started to break loose.
Nicolas Anelka was sent packing after an argument with Domenech, and the team staged a walkout of training. Ugly stuff. And for Tuesday's finale, Domenech used his last 90 minutes of power to exclude captain Patrice Evra from the lineup. "Tonight it's time for the big apology toward the … French people, because I share the pain of all these French people," Evra said. "What hurts even more is that this apology should have been made yesterday, but my coach stopped me [from] doing it as a captain.
"France will know the truth. There is a cause for all this failure; several things will come out. Then, if people don't want to forgive, at least they will know the truth."
Evra then said the whole squad will "give up all the bonuses. We won't accept a single cent from the World Cup out of shame."
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France concluded a disastrous World Cup campaign with one more controversy yesterday when coach Raymond Domenech refused to shake hands with opposite number Carlos Alberto Parreira over a quote he alleges the Brazilian made over France's involvement in the tournament. The result sent both countries out of the World Cup in what was each coach's last game in the national hot seat, after Mexico and Uruguay sealed the last 16 spots from Group A.
Domenech, however, reserved all his remaining good will for his players and countrymen and none for Bafana Bafana coach Parreira.
The Frenchman, who greeted members of his beleaguered squad with a handshake after the match, refused to give a reason for snubbing Parreira. The Brazilian was more forthcoming, if a little bemused.
“(Domenech said to me) I don't want to talk to you because you make bad words against my national team... For the life of me I can't remember what I have said,â€
[i]Everyday, Les Bleus push back the frontiers of the unacceptable. This band of spoilt children, left free to do what they like by their entire hierarchy, has no limit, no sense of duty so close to the match against South Africa. To have the worst football team at the World Cup was already unbearable. To also have the most stupid is intolerable … The mutiny at Knysna will forever remain the Waterloo of French football.â€
I was riveted to my tv while watching La France 24 channel last night.
The kindest collective description the studio panel discussing the French fiasco had for those deserving of blame was "Les Miserables!"
They concluded that if certain players had been seen to act irresponsibly then it was an understandable reaction to being led by Domenech whom they deemed to be "a madman, a basket case!"
Then they ripped into FFF President Jean-Pierre Escalettes, Gerrard Houllier, and Michel Platini. One member of the panel was urged to continue his tirade but refused, saying he didn't want to be sued for only speaking his mind...