AC Milan general spiel 2.0

[p_maldini_3]

[San Paolo]

[San Paolo]

[p_maldini_3]

[San Paolo]

[RomaShield27]

Ecco le formazioni ufficiali di Milan-Manchester United, che avrà inizio alle 20.45: www.datasport.it

MILAN (4-3-3): Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Pato, Huntelaar, Ronaldinho. A disp.: Abbiati, Gattuso, Inzaghi, Seedorf, Flamini, Favalli, Abate. All.: Leonardo.

MANCHESTER UNITED (4-3-3): Van der Sar; Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra; Fletcher, Scholes, Carrick; Nani, Rooney, Park. A disp.: Kuszczak, Neville, Brown, Owen, Berbatov, Valencia, Gibson. All. Ferguson.

Beckham ahead of Gattuso and Seedorf? Bonera ahead of Abate?

[p_maldini_3]

i would trust bonera as a defensive fullback over abate.

i think we will be more of a jagged 4-4-2 with beckham on the right and ronaldinho 10 yard further up on the left.

pato might be tucked in on the right rather than hugging the touchline.

fuck i gotta take the 4th shit of the day....

battlecry gentlemen? i have no faith to find the energy for one. i just dont want to be humiliated.

[RomaShield27]

4th shit of your day?! lol. Agreed that Bonera is more sound at full-back ahead of Abate. United always pack they're midfield in away games like this. It will be very tight. Best of luck to Milan.

[RomaShield27]

From the SB, after the match:


p_maldini_3[ Delete ] the team played with no balls. let man.utd have all the possession and rushed the passing when they had the ball. it was ridiculous. and fucking favalli. that cost us the game. i cant fucking believe it.
p_maldini_3[ Delete ] pato was fucking weak as hell, he must do more. and leonardo should be raped for sending favalli on for some rapage by valencia. that was the absolute worst fucking move of the decade.
aba_bab[ Delete ] from the sound of it tec, you guys could've used rosella sensi in defense, so dont go all hating on little cici
vtec[ Delete ] like fish need bicycles
aba_bab[ Delete ] milan need cicinho
RomaShield27[ Delete ] Don't be a smartass just because your argument is weak.
maro[ Delete ] Look it up on the Roma English-language website.
aba_bab[ Delete ] madrid need to spend some money in the transfer window to further strenghten their team.. there's only so much a team can do with limited funds
RomaShield27[ Delete ] "Trascinatore"??
aba_bab[ Delete ] exactly tec.. maybe ronnie would do well to take some lessons from cassetti on how to be there for a(either of) team
maro[ Delete ] Perhaps, 'tec. For me, a trascinatore doesn't go missing when the going gets tough and people these days seem to want to describe Ronnie as Milan's trascinatore.
maro[ Delete ] He was probably worried about Rooney's aerial threat when pulling away to the backpost - as the second goal suggested he should be, though on the other side of the pitch.
vtec[ Delete ] no, you are expecting him to do the work of eleven players. any rational person will recognize that he did all that would be expected of a player in his position/role/function would do
RomaShield27[ Delete ] And putting Favali in there was totally unfair on the old man. Where was Wankalotski?
maro[ Delete ] Irrationally hating on Ronnie? No - giving him credit where credit's due and criticising where criticism is due. Not much hating there.
aba_bab[ Delete ] having only watched bits of the first 30 mins.. i cant beleive milan had spurned so many opportunities initially.. unlike them in big european clashes
vtec[ Delete ] huntelaar was shit. he had one golden chance and then he did nothing
RomaShield27[ Delete ] Milan need two new full-backs, one new centre-half, one new 'keeper, one new midfielder, and one new Ronaldinho.
vtec[ Delete ] pato was shit, but he gave dinho room to create his magic by having defenders on him like flies on shit
vtec[ Delete ] the fullbacks were shit. beckham was shit. dida was shit. nesta is not back to his best yet, but he can't do it alone
RomaShield27[ Delete ] Lay off Tomzo, lads, he finished his shiraz and now is drinking his Pinot Noir. We all know he cant handle his juice.
maro[ Delete ] Yes, 'tec, you're quite right. I often do that with Totti and Vooch.
maro[ Delete ] Bonera had a good first half but faded badly in the second and Favagol was pretty exposed.
arthurfonzarelli[ Delete ] and sodomy
stefano[ Delete ] ronaldinho is black.
maro[ Delete ] dibbus, I thought the three players across the midfield weren't great, but Huntelaar was probably the weakest of all.
vtec[ Delete ] you are irrationally hating on ronaldinho. when vucinic or totti go missing for 80 minutes but score, they're heroes
RomaShield27[ Delete ] What a cocklord.
maro[ Delete ] Yes, 'tec, that's a logical extension of what I'm saying. ffs.
maro[ Delete ] I'm drinking Pinot Noir, dickwedge.
vtec[ Delete ] you are right. dinho should be benched next game for the way he let rooney just walk in all alone on goal on his third
RomaShield27[ Delete ] Tom, where had Pato gone when they were 2-1 down? Or Huntelaar? Or even Pirlo? Or etc. etc....
aba_bab[ Delete ] i coudlnt watch save for some bits and peices in the first half.. i went to the pub and they're showing the fuckig olympics
stefano[ Delete ] it is edzo's (and pato's fault) milan lost. we all know this.
aba_bab[ Delete ] lol.. this is to amusing.. anyways.. so hang on.. i hear the professor and what he said.. but in your opinion maro, who was the poorest bunch of players for milan today?
RomaShield27[ Delete ] Now Tom, your beginning to make a fool of yourself again, take it easy on the shiraz, go listen to some Mozart, and breath.
maro[ Delete ] ffs, edzo. I asked where Ronnie had gone when Milan were 2-1 down and looking like facing a landslide. And in due course the third goal came.
maro[ Delete ] jesus 'tec. When you're under pressure having your midfielders and forwards hold onto the ball is kind of important too.
vtec[ Delete ] jesus maro. not scoring goals is not what cost us this game
RomaShield27[ Delete ] I never seen that. Thats not the point, anyway, the point is your singling out Dinho for "going missing for 30 minutes" when the fact is he played very well overall, better than most of the other Milan players out there.
maro[ Delete ] Seriously, 'tec?
vtec[ Delete ] standing up when the heat is on sounds like a defensive task
maro[ Delete ] Which bit of this is so difficult to understand, nedzo? "Ronnie had a very good first half tonight, but he's got to stand up when the heat is on too."
aba_bab[ Delete ] exactly maro.. why is it so difficult for you to admit how good cicinho actually is??!!
RomaShield27[ Delete ] Ok, tom, so even if he played bad for 30 minutes, can you not accept that he played very well for the other 60?
vtec[ Delete ] and i'm saying that ronnie was the best player in red and black today and i don't think many will disagree
RomaShield27[ Delete ] I dont see anyone singling out Pato or Huntelaar, or even Inzaghi in the short time he was on, for being poor? Does anyone else? Ronaldinho was impressive tonight, Milans best forward, and troubled the United defence throughout.
vtec[ Delete ] had seedorf played from the first minute we would have likely won, but our omniscient management insists on having beckham play for the storyline
maro[ Delete ] 'tec, all I'm saying about Ronnie is that he went completely missing for the first 30 minutes of the second half tonight and that people never seem to take into account the mix of things he brings.
ricky2882[ Delete ] not-so-good returns for Beckham and Benzema today
ricky2882[ Delete ] well, a Madrid loss kinda made the day a bit better
RomaShield27[ Delete ] Ronaldinho could score an early goal, right Tomzo?
juventino_italiano[ Delete ] hhahahhaa
juventino_italiano[ Delete ] vidic will be there for 2nd leg??
SPqR[ Delete ] in fact at 0-0 I'd have given Milan 5%
maro[ Delete ] Milan just need an early goal and it'll be interesting.
vtec[ Delete ] no way 35%. 15% at most
SPqR[ Delete ] at 3-2 it's still no more than 5% I'd say
ricky2882[ Delete ] 3-2, JI
juventino_italiano[ Delete ] at 3-2 i'd say 35% hope
vtec[ Delete ] we only scored two because vidic wasn't there. if he's back, then no hope at all
juventino_italiano[ Delete ] at 3-1 5% hope or less
ricky2882[ Delete ] ok no Carrick in the second leg. That might help? Or have we just given up hope of Milan making it to the quarters?
SPqR[ Delete ] Carrick gone.
maro[ Delete ] In part because they lack protection given the way Leonardo sets the team out, 'que.
SPqR[ Delete ] I can't say I've seen all of this game, but when Man U attacked the D backed in...very amateurish, unorganized and scared...they are the problem IMO.
vtec[ Delete ] your saying that ronaldinho is not presenting is ridiculous
maro[ Delete ] No, 'tec, you're the one being ridiculous. The midfield can't keep the ball if the players in front of them don't present.
vtec[ Delete ] if he'd track back he's be useless on counters
SPqR[ Delete ] jesus Nesta...there's some more blame for the D.
vtec[ Delete ] ridiculous. he is a striker. the coach doesn't ask him to track back. and of course he will be missing for five whole minutes if the midfield can't get a sniff of the ball
maro[ Delete ] Ronnie had a very good first half tonight, but he's got to stand up when the heat is on too.
maro[ Delete ] Yes, Populusque. I agree. Except that the +2 is also countered by the -2 that come from his only contributing going in one direction. A defence is not made up solely of a back 4.

[San Paolo]

[San Paolo]

[RomaShield27]

Where are The MAN and Robhood, haven't seen them around in quite a while. In fact, have they even posted in this new thread?

[San Paolo]

[San Paolo]

Happy Birthday Zambro!!

taken from the Azzurri chat and put here for us as well.

World Cup 2010: Italy Coach Marcello Lippi In Milan Link?

Reports in Italy claim Lippi will replace Leonardo for next season if he fails to win the Champions League...

Italy coach Marcello Lippi has been tipped to join Milan after the World Cup, according to speculative reports.

Tuttomercatoweb.com claims the 'Studio Sport' news programme on Wednesday suggested Lippi was heading to Milan after the summer tournament in South Africa.

The report comes on the day club president Silvio Berlusconi fired a warning shot at coach Leonardo.

Berlusconi claimed the team has the potential to win everything, but only if those in charge of it allow the players to flourish.

Milan's loss to Manchester United in the Champions League has caused concern, fuelling speculation that Leonardo's future is in doubt.

Lippi is expected to leave la Nazionale following Italy's participation at the World Cup.

Last month both he and FIGC president Giancarlo Abete claimed his future as coach of Italy would be decided before this summer's showpiece event.

Source: http://goal.com/en/news/1863/world-cup- ... milan-link

[San Paolo]

Milan are hot on the heels of Lazio defender Stefano Radu, says agent Giovanni Becali.

Rossoneri coach Leonardo is looking to strengthen his defence in the summer and he is following the centre-back who can also play on the left wing.

"Stefan has received many compliments from a number of major European teams and we know there are very important clubs interested in him," Becali told Lalaziosiamonoi.it.

"Milan are one of those clubs and they like Radu, but Stefan has a contract with Lazio and he wants to remain there."

Radu joined Lazio permanently from Dinamo Bucharest in 2008, and his current deal expires in 2012.
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know anything about this guy, is he what we are looking for?

[San Paolo]

Leonardo's Milan future has come under scrutiny once again as the club ponders replacing the Brazilian with either Marco van Basten or Massimiliano Allegri, according to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

Club president Silvio Berlusconi sent his message of disapproval through the press on Thursday, saying: "If only those in charge of the team allowed it to play well, they would."

Berlusconi is unhappy with the coach after the 3-2 loss to Manchester United in the Champions League, and he is reportedly thinking of a change.

Leonardo has Champions League qualification as the objective to save his job. If he fails that then van Basten or Allegri have been tipped to replace him. Both men are regarded highly by the club, and developments are expected in the summer.
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MVB legend player but 2 steps backwards as a coach.

[San Paolo]

One thing's for sure. Mario Balotelli is a cheeky lad.

Because he has the audacity to confess that he is a Milan supporter when he plays for Inter. Because he goes to not one but two Milan games, one of them being the most glamorous tie in the Champions League so far this campaign. Because he sits beside a Milan player at a Milan game.

God knows that Milan need someone like Balotelli. He is strong, can burst frighteningly towards defenders, is accurate and powerful with his shooting and brings his teammates into play. His youth and athleticism would be a welcome boon to Milan's aging and slow unit.

Marco Borriello is not world class and is susceptible to injuries and Klaas-Jan Huntelaar has not been given enough chances. Whether Balotelli can tactically accommodate himself alongside Alexandre Pato and Ronaldinho will remain a mystery unless and until they actually play together, but from a footballing perspective, Balotelli wouldn't be a bad signing for il Diavolo.

But needing someone like Balotelli is one thing, needing Balotelli is quite another. As good a striker the Inter teenager is, he has also earned an unenviable reputation of being a bit too maverick, a bit too arrogant, a bit too temperamental.

Whether Balotelli is hated by most anti-Interistas in Italy because of his origin or skin colour or for his impertinent attitude problems on the pitch is a matter of debate but the 19-year-old doesn't really help himself by committing the same 'mistakes' over and over and over again.

over the years he has done much to allay cynicism about Italian football by putting forth a clean, politically correct, attack-minded Milan unit that has revolved around intra-club brotherhood and solidarity.

Mario Balotelli's presence wouldn't do much good to that puritan image if he continues to behave as he does. His youth and exuberence together with his imperious confidence would be major assets for the Rossoneri next season when reinforcements are imported, but in the dressing room the Palermo-born wouldn't be an exemplar.

Then there is the small factor of finance. Inter wouldn't sell Balotelli to Milan - or to any other club for that matter - for a small amount and the Rossoneri wouldn't find it easy to cough up that much cash. Even if they do, they would be gambling on a player who is ranked 318 in the Castrol Rankings and whose talent, although evident, has yet to completely express itself.

Balotelli's temperamental issue is a bit like Wayne Rooney when he initially emerged at Everton. Only, this time neither the media nor the public is very keen to indulge a talented footballer. After all, the Premiershit hadn't and hasn't seen someone like Rooney before whereas Serie A has churned out countless Balotellis.

[San Paolo]

MILAN, 20 February 2010 - "I remain relaxed, our agreement was very, very clear. The plans were established from the beginning, so I'd have no problem: if the president wants me to step aside, all I need is the word." On the eve of the match against Bari, Rossonero coach Leonardo commented on the remarks Silvio Berlusconi made about Milan's game when he attended a dinner with fellow PDL political colleagues. "In order to keep going forward" Leonardo continued, "we need one main thing, and that's calm. These things don't do the team any good. But it doesn't harm them either, as they are a mature group of players. I have been here for 13 years and all I need is one word from the president, just one. I have no problem with my contract, I would never make the club pay for two coaches. In the meantime, I want to focus on the team, we need to stand up for them. They have done exceptional things this year, all of them. They produced some outstanding football for a period of time, and we need to remember that; we actually played better against Manchester and we need to defend that. We lost, but these games have to be analysed logically."

Milan bigger and stronger After the Manchester game, Milan is "stronger and more convinced of our capabilities" despite being defeated at home. Leonardo is sure of it, and with the team facing Bari tomorrow, he has said that we can expect to see "an immediate reaction in a difficult game." "From Tuesday's defeat we are more convinced of our capabilities" he explained. "We played on equal par with Manchester, at times we were actually better. So we have come away from that game stronger, and more confident about what we can do on the pitch. Unfortunately we were defeated, we failed to turn our game into goals, but I'm not concerned." Leonardo drew attention to the fact that "at the beginning of the season nobody expected us by February to be third in the league with one game less and still in Champions League qualifying zone." Dida "is not to blame" for the defeat against Manchester, although "his current fitness needs to be assessed" meaning Abbiati may make the first team against Bari. Marco Borriello is back on form and the young Ghana player has been put on the team for the first time ever. Absent are Zambrotta, Seedorf, Antonini, Flamini, Kaladze and Mancini.

[vtec]

[San Paolo]