Calciopoli information

[marco]

[ju29ro]

[marco]

[marco]

[ju29ro]

[marco]

[morra10]

[ju29ro]

[marco]

morra, no one was writing anyone off. some people believe the hype others dont. i happen to side with ita's comments back a couple of pages because i'm not interested in hearing a completely biased take with the blanks conveniently filled in by someone who wants to believe it a certain way. however, when i share someone's opinion and then the opposite side takes a shot because he's uncomfortable with the fact that he's not convincing anyone but himself, then it does get ugly.

i like to banter in good spirit but some clowns take themselves so seriously that they then resort to actually wanting to fight, as he clearly implied a couple of pages back. at this point its become just comedy for me, given the attempted 'fag' insults directed my way.

[ju29ro]

[ju29ro]

[marco]

[marco]

[Italiamia]

glad, just remember the old saying: don't go out and murder a man when he's about to commit suicide.

[ju29ro]

This happens in every forum. Guys significantly lose an argument and refuse to acknowledge it. They make it personal and start insulting and then if the superior party (ya fuck it I said it) reacts he gets blamed for getting riled up.

I did here what I've done in other threads where self proclaimed soccer geniuses resided. In the span of 10 posts or so I managed to show you guys how very little you knew and instantly it got personal. If you guys had even a remote argument to make you would have been making it. Just for the record...for all your words of praise that this forum was different or better I hate to point out that this was the one that died the fastest. Everywhere else I've been the discussion would last for a while and those contesting the issue would contest the issue and not the writer for a fair bit longer because they had more factual knowledge then you guys did.

You guys got word fucked and reacted like children.

- I posted official documents from the trial and beyond that absolved Moggi and Juventus of controlling a system and/or fixing matches and actually showed you what excuse was created to send Juve to Serie B
- A confession from a Telecom employee given to Milan prosecutors proving Telecom not only spied but tampered evidence
- whether you like it or not all the corporate ties paint a picture that all but you here managed to see
- you guys claim that Zaccone admitted that Juve deserved worse (which is true he did say that) but then refused to take me up on my offer to read the TAR appeal prepared by him that would have flushed Calciopoli down the toilet. In an interview in Tuttisport on the 4th of October former Constitutional Court President Antonio Baldassarre claimed “had Juventus proceeded with their appeal in civil court, they would have won and as a result crushed the system that currently controls soccer in our country.â€

[ju29ro]

I just thought I’d post an example of the differences between the actual phone calls intercepted and the excerpts found on the various anti-Juve sports papers. This article came from “Il Corriere dello Sportâ€

[maro]

For someone who claims he thinks he's winning this argument, ru27, you seem remarkably knocked out of your stride. I should have thought you'd be quite content for the self-evident facts to do your talking for you, leaving the polemics for those beneath you. Anyone would think this is about rhetoric for you, rather than about carefully weighed and reasoned argument. I would never have guessed.

[maro]

Oh, and that it took us barely half a dozen posts to see through you - that's a resounding criticism, no doubt.

[ju29ro]

See what I mean. I just posted a translated wire transcript and the corriere article's interpretation of it to show the level of propagandist disinformation and rather than comment on it you again comment on me saying you've seen through me and I'm off my stride.

You've assessed me well and that's why you are avoiding the topic. I keep talking about Farsopoli and you keep talking about me.

It's obvious you guys have realized that you don't actually have anything to add to the discussion and that you can't prove me wrong. You likely have assumed (correctly) that I can continue flooding this thread with evidence that you guys have no defense for, and will no doubt brush aside.

[Italiamia]