THE WOLF'S DEN - Tana dei Lupi II

[maro]

I gather he believes the standards have been met and that there are areas of the stadium which are perfectly safe and should be able to be used. It's not that "standards weren't met"; it's that someone has decided they haven't been, a judgement which Cellino and others distrust. Put yourself in his shoes - how pissed off would you be if you'd been busting a nut to get everything done, finally get there, or think you have, only to have some smarmy git from the council who doesn't even like football come in and tell you it's not acceptable because you haven't finished the peewees' urinal for a limp dick like him.

[maro]

And then when you tell him that none of the fans who come to games have inverted penoi he frowns and says "that's not good enough; that's exactly the sort of attitude that makes me feel unwelcome here" before swanning off to rub one out on the penalty spot.

[RomaShield27]

Of course you'd be annoyed at someones decision when you don't agree with it, but I'm afraid this is way the fucking world works. A decision was made by the authorities that it was not safe enough for fans, you have to accept it and get on with it, not go about making your own rules like Cellino did. Its a completely ridiculous situation.

Its now official that we've got the three points (0-3 win, go Zeman), and we're now on seven points. Cagliari may also still get a point reduction. Proper fucking order.

UFFICIALE Cagliari-Roma 0-3 a tavolino
/ lunedì 24 settembre 2012 15:39

Vittoria per 0-3 a tavolino in favore della Roma. E’ il verdetto del giudice sportivo sulla gara, non disputata dopo il rinvio deciso sabato notte dalla prefettura, fra Cagliari e Roma. La società giallorossa aveva presentato ricorso per ottenere la vittoria d’ufficio. Con questa vittoria la squadra di Zeman sale a quota 7 punti mentre il Cagliari rimane fermo a quota 2. (ANSA).

[maro]

I'm pretty sure the heroes of Easter 1916 didn't acquire their renown by accepting others' decisions.

[RomaShield27]

You're an idiot.

[Italiamia]

The Easter Rising of 1916, Tommaso. I think you are getting a bit too serious my friend. This is only football.


http://www.repubblica.it/sport/calcio/serie-a/roma/

[DCGweez]

It's funny because i told a few of my friends who aren't familiar with Italian Society and they were incredulous. They couldn't believe that it could be allowed to happen.

Especially given that Owners in the NFL are fined between 50-300k for even mentioning any call made by the refs.

I told my Dad and he just laughed. "That's Italy, no one thinks of the greater good or that a rising tide lifts all boats."

I try to laugh but i simply can't. I watch the league i love tearing itself to pieces. It becomes harder and harder to defend. I suppose i should hope for foreign ownership to come in and rip out the Soul of Serie A to save the body...

[Italiamia]

[red]

I don't know how well publicised it would have been it Italy, but the Hillsborough report that came out the other week saying that the stadium didn't have the proper safety certificates won't have helped Cagliari's case, I wouldn't have thought.

[maro]

Sure. I have no idea of the specifics and subtleties here. That's why I wouldn't be so arrogant as to label Cellino's actions "pathetic." The thoughtful person tries to understand the actions of others; having done that, one is still free to dismiss them, of course.

[Italiamia]

I think Cellino made a huge miscalculation. Just play the game. He knew he would not get his way in the end so why jeopardize your team by giving away points without a fight. It's not Roma's fault that the guy refused to cooperate. Sometimes you will pay for self destructive behavior and unfortunately he hurt his players in the process.

[RomaShield27]

[DavidP]

i think this fat kiwi should sit the fuck down. giving-headmund clearly went and inspected the stadium for himself, it's not like he's letting some council twat do his thinking for him. why would you ever argue against his judgement here?

[DCGweez]

I think Cellini overplayed his hand. It was poor judgement on his part. His statement was irresponsible. What good would come of it? Did he really think that they would open the gates and let them in?

With that said, if we removed all the idiots from Calcio i dare say we'd have trouble filling out a starting 11 for 2 teams.

[p_maldini_3]

[Italiamia]

Potential trouble for Cellino: http://www.romatiamo.net/content/cellin ... delinquere

[p_maldini_3]

cellino should get punished, sure, but the magnitude of his mistake has been wildly exaggerated.

[DCGweez]

[RomaShield27]

Bertolacci – a secret to scream about
/ Tuesday September 25 2012

Looking for a player to watch this season? David Swan suggests Genoa’s Andrea Bertolacci after he was reunited with boss Gigi De Canio.

When Roma acquired Panagiotis Tachtsidis from Genoa for €2.5m back in July, there was not a great deal of focus on the youngster that went the other way. Coach Zdenek Zeman acquired the man he wanted and Roma were not giving up anything that would be of use in the coming season. But Andrea Bertolacci, the 21-year-old who went to Marassi on a co-ownership as part of the deal, is a player their Coach Gigi De Canio wanted too, having given him his debut at senior level.

He was loaned to Lecce in January 2010, halfway through their successful promotion campaign from Serie B with De Canio at the helm. He made his first appearance off the bench in a 1-1 home draw against Triestina and would make a further four as a substitute. He was used equally as sparingly in the subsequent campaign, where he was on a season-long loan in Lecce’s first year back in Serie A, with only 10 appearances, but they were all from the start this time around. He had a big impact with his four goals, and even though De Canio had not given him much playing time, he had left a lasting impression.

When De Canio was sacked at the end of the 2010-11 season, he spoke at length about Bertolacci, including a justification as to why the midfielder was not given more games.

“Andrea is destined for a great career. He’s an incredible boy and is already very mature for his age. I tried to play him as little as possible at Lecce so that he did not become known to everyone, so they could buy him outright.”

Roma were not fooled. When Lecce tried to buy 50 per cent of his contract in the summer of 2011, as was agreed as part of the loan for that campaign, the Giallorossi used their right to veto it for €500,000.

“He is definitely a player who Roma will rely on. I believe he will assert himself in this new way of playing under Luis Enrique,” De Canio remarked when asked for his thoughts on the ‘project’ the capital club were embarking upon.

Except Luis Enrique and Roma decided Bertolacci was not needed for 2011-12 and allowed him to return to Lecce on another loan. He was afforded many more minutes on the pitch under Eusebio Di Francesco, and then Serse Cosmi – 28 appearances in total, albeit with 15 of them from the bench. His three goals was one fewer than he managed under De Canio, but two of them were directly responsible for four points in the club’s failed fight against relegation.

His efforts were enough to convince Roma, who renewed his contract for another five years in the summer. That they only allowed him to go on a co-ownership deal to Genoa, despite having received full rights of a midfielder in return, speaks volumes for their belief in his abilities.

It means Bertolacci re-joins the Coach that launched his career and someone he labels as a ‘perfectionist’. “He is demanding and pays attention to the details. Training is hard and requires a lot of effort and concentration. At the beginning it is not easy to understand the demands and adapt to his system, but with time it becomes second nature.”

[DCGweez]

Zdenek Zeman ha diramato la lista dei giocatori che prenderanno parte alla partita che la Prima Squadra disputerà domani alle 20:45 allo Stadio Olimpico.
Roma, 26 settembre 2012
ROMA-SAMPDORIA
Lista convocati A.S. Roma:
BALZARETTI
BRADLEY
BURDISSO
CASTAN
DE ROSSI
DESTRO
GOICOECHEA
FLORENZI
LAMELA
LOPEZ
MARQUINHO
MARQUINHOS
PERROTTA
PIRIS
PJANIC
ROMAGNOLI
STEKELNBURG
SVEDKAUSKAS
TACHTSIDIS
TADDEI
TALLO
TOTTI