Transfers and Rumours Thread

[juventino_italiano]

It's sad tony that the bright spot from that game was Martinez playing as a striker when he's a winger....
The Waterboy should disappear....

[juventino_italiano]

Amauri might be out soon enough....

[juventino_italiano]

Amauri out, Matri in....comments??

[Zoff82]

Is that the difference maker from finishing 6th instead of 7th??

[Zoff82]

He's going to be on a loan deal. This means he has 6 months to prove he's worth 15 mil (LMAOOO!). 15 FUCKING MIL....who is this guy?? He's worth 8, tops.

[juventino_italiano]

[juventino_italiano]

[Zoff82]

This goes completely against what the management's game plan. Take low-risk, high reward players. You can't determine the risk of a player in the next 6 months in a new system under a new coach. 15 mil is a lot of money if you're gonna get a forward. He's not lights out. This management has let too many players go for the cheap, it is terrible.

[Lombardiamia]

It's 2.5M now & 15,5 in june.....18M total....Didnt Agnelli just say that Juve couldnt afford 20M for Pazzini..??

UFFICIALE: Alessandro Matri alla Juventus

Fonte: Juventus.com


Juventus Football Club S.p.A. comunica di aver perfezionato con la società Cagliari Calcio S.p.A. i seguenti accordi: acquisto a titolo temporaneo del diritto alle prestazioni sportive del calciatore Alessandro Matri a fronte di un corrispettivo di euro 2,5 milioni da versare nel corso del corrente esercizio. Il contratto - scrive la Juventus in una nota - prevede inoltre la facoltà per la Juventus di esercitare, al termine della stagione sportiva 2010/2011, il diritto di opzione per l'acquisizione a titolo definitivo del calciatore a fronte di un corrispettivo di euro 15,5 milioni, pagabile in tre esercizi".

[juventino_italiano]

[Zoff82]

That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about! You can't afford Pazzini, so you go for a "cheaper", less accomplished target like Matri?? You say Juve are looking for a young team, then you let Trez go and bring in Toni/target Forlan?? Loan loan loan...you're not going to build a team like this. You're going to tell me that in 6 months, a player is going to prove he's worth 18 mil?? This is going to be worse than the Amauri transfer. You're going to have to sell players in order to come up with this cash and Juve have nobody to sell. 10 mil for Amauri, 6-8 for Sissoko....there's no team building here.

[maro]

Matri's a very, very shrewd buy for you cunts. He brings you pace which you desperately lack all across the front line. He can also play alongside your bigger players, like Amauri and Toni. I think he'll do well for you cunts. More's the pity.

[ricky2882]

[Zoff82]

Well, I'll be looking at how Giovinco-Amauri play rather than Matri and the rest of the circus at Juve.

[ricky2882]

Amauri is going to make Giovinco want to tear his hair out. Even more frustrating considering Giovinco has no hair.

[tonykart]

I like Matri, I've always been a fan of his, and I think he will be a good fit here at Juventus. I don't see him as the natural poacher we need in order to be succesful, but he is certainly an upgrade to Iaquinta, Toni and Amauri.

GOOD SIGNING

[tonykart]

[juventino_italiano]

[tonykart]

So we will be paying 5.2 mil a year plus his salary for three years? Seems like a retarded idea to me.

[Bagg10]

Wednesday 2 February, 2011
Blog: The search for a striker
Signing an arguably overvalued Alessandro Matri at €18m is a consequence of shopping in the wrong market, says Rob Paton




Whilst securing Alessandro Matri on a sensible low-cost loan is in keeping with Juventus’ sound business approach, can the same be said of how they ended up with Matri?

Start with how the club missed out on Giampaolo Pazzini, joining Inter on January 27 for €12m cash plus €7m-rated Jonathan Biabiany. Reports suggested two days earlier – as Inter announced interest in the 26-year-old – Juve offered €20m for a summer deal after Beppe Marotta met the player and Riccardo Garrone on January 23.

Sampdoria’s President considered it but chose Inter’s offer that also involved a player coming the other way. Amauri and Momo Sissoko had not come up as suggested makeweights, nor interestingly did Manuel Giandonato, who a few days before had attracted Sampdoria’s scouts and represented a similar prospective value to Biabiany.

January 31’s €2.5m loan for Matri with a future €15.5m fee saw the remaining 50 per cent of Lorenzo Ariaudo willingly given up as part of the deal. Juventus said they could not compete with Inter’s cash-plus-player offer, and whilst the Matri deal suggests this is in part true with regards cash, the fact Juve had players that would have suited Sampdoria, combined with Pazzini’s suggestion that very little was actually done by the Bianconeri to get him, somewhat implies a missed opportunity.

At the same time, the confirmation from this that the club didn’t have the cash – or perhaps the negotiating technique – to secure a target such as Pazzini begs the question, why were resources and time put into pursuing the likes of €15m+ rated Pazzini, Alberto Gilardino, Diego Forlan and Luis Fabiano?

If financial restraints were indeed hampering Marotta’s negotiating, Juve then ignored arguably better low-cost alternatives when Antonio Floro Flores’ deal broke down. Historically speaking, for every Gianluca Vialli and Roberto Baggio Juve sign, there is a Fabrizio Ravanelli and Salvatore Schillaci. Discarded duo Andrea Caracciolo – pushed in Juve’s direction by his club – and Massimo Maccarone – by his agent – are not big names, but compare favourably with Luca Toni and price-wise with Matri.

To chase players out of budget, regardless of how admirably they stick to their terms, is simply naïve business and highlights either ambition not backed up with ability, or a club without the capacity to identify a market of players reflective of their finances.

The Matri deal is significant in showing Juve’s hand this January. It confirms they were negotiating at the price-point of the higher-profile names above, whilst the timing of the deal merely suggests a similar agreement could not be reached with other targets – for example, 10 days prior, Sevilla baulked at a loan offer for Fabiano.

Juve’s approach is financially sensible, but targeting the wrong players could see you go through options 1-9 on a list in the month to then find yourself on deadline day with an over-valued option 10.

With a very public striker search – compare it with Napoli’s work on Victor Ruiz or Cesena’s on Alessandro Rosina – and Matri very clearly not first choice, and combined with a failure to indeed secure a full-back at the same time, no-one has come out of Juve’s January search looking altogether confident.

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